If the people in China who don't hear the Kingdom message will be judged for survival purely on their heart condition, why should people in the western world be judged on their reaction to a message brought to them by JWs?
Mickey mouse
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Logical Questions to Make Them Think?
by sweet pea inthis has no doubt been covered before and if anyone has any favourite threads on this subject perhaps they could post them here .
what are your best one liners/questions to make jw's think?.
i had a heated conversation with my mum this weekend and apart from mainly going round in circles (as is often the case with brainwashed cult members) one thing made her stop and i could see that she was having major trouble processing the logic.
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2011 District Convention "Let Us Be Bored and Confused Into Obedience"
by ranmac inthis has already been discussed but i need to vent.. i just spent the most painful weekend of my life sitting thru this years dc.
what an unbelievably pointless, soulless and demeaning spectacle the assemblies are.
the three days were a blur of monotanous droning and brainwashing.
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Mickey mouse
Mary, there are recordings of the convention on this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211196/1/2011-2012-DC-MP3s-Partial-sets-from-Fri-Sat
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It's my Birthday on Thursday
by nugget ini am having my second birthday out of the jws on the 14th of july the first after disfellowshipping and just need a few ideas for the day.
we went to arudel today to do pre birthday shopping so i am really looking forward to see what goodies they found.
there was much whispering in the corner of shops.
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Mickey mouse
Have a wonderful day! I wouldn't have a clue how to celebrate my birthday.
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What was it like growing up in a Jehovahs Witness Household? Read this !
by Hairyhegoat ini found this on another ex-jw site and it's well worth a read .
.. it's a bit long though... .
growing up in a jehovahs witness household was very confusing.
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Mickey mouse
Some excellent insights, this one in particular resonated with me:
I also learned very early on not to express my true feelings. They often got me into trouble.
Parents are told to 'draw up' their children's deep thoughts. On the rare occasion I shared them, I quickly learned it wasn't wise.
For example:
"Did you enjoy the meeting?"
"You don't feel that you miss out by not celebrating birthdays do you?" (on the householder's doorstep with one arm up my back...etc.
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Safehouse?
by DocBob injust throwing this out for feedback.
do you think there would be much call for a safehouse for people escaping abusive/cult situations?
looking for ideas for locations, financing, other considerations.
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Mickey mouse
If I ever came into a bit of money this is the sort of thing I'd love to get involved with. Either that or a scholarship fund for ex-JWs who want to get themselves an education.
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An Open letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses (Elders/ Ex-Elders)
by stuckinamovement inif you are an elder or an ex-elder please add a comment.
i hope that the governing body will see this.
it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.
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Mickey mouse
SIAM, this was a little before your time but: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/150690/1/News-from-Mother-ship
1. Bethel in NY suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. Major Organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, PO to be done away with, thats all I know for now.
Was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
Will update as I hear.
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Adam didn't have intercourse with Eve prior to sinning? Watchtower Quote.
by ThomasCovenant inwatchtower 15th jan 1958 page 62 qfr.. why, after receiving from god the express command to multiply and fill the earth, did adam and eve refrain from carrying out this procreation mandate while they were perfect in the garden of eden?.
asking this question concerning adam and eve is like trying to meddle in the private affairs of a christian married couple today, and asking why they have had no children as yet.
jehovah god set no definite time for adam and eve to begin having perfect children to fill the earth.
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Mickey mouse
They are SO obsessed with sex!
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News from Bethel Heavy
by cinnamon1642 inpioneer hour change is legit.
letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early october right before the tract campaign starts.. .
elimination of circuit overseers.
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Mickey mouse
BTTT for wolfman85
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CO's arrangement finishes????
by wolfman85 inhow true is that the circuit overseer's arrangement ends in 2011?.
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Mickey mouse
This was the thread that started it all, alost 3 years ago http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/165229/1/News-from-Bethel-Heavy
• Pioneer hour change is legit. Letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early October right before the tract campaign starts.
Elimination of Circuit Overseers
• Implementation date 2011 service year
• Many District Overseer’s and some “Circuit Overseers” are getting along in years and slowing down. There is a need for several more suitable replacements.
• There is a need to prepare additional brothers to serve as “overseers” in case of persecution and isolation.
• Presiding Overseers will be trained for additional responsibilities at Patterson “Elders School”.
• After all Presiding Overseer’s have been trained and before this is implemented there will be a Kingdom Ministry school for all Elder’s.
• Various Presiding Overseers from around each circuit will visit the various congregations in the circuit.
• The visit of the “Overseer” will begin Thursday evening. Another meeting will be held Saturday evening and the public meeting will be on Sunday.
• The “Overseer” will share in service Friday, Saturday, and Sunday with the congregation.
• Additionally the “Overseer” will have a meeting with the local elders and pioneers.
• Congregations will receive three visits per year instead of just two.
• Circuit Overseers can be reassigned as “District Overseers” to fill the need of replacements.
• Other Circuit Overseers may be reassigned as “Special Pioneers” to assist in the field.
• Since there will be ample “Circuit Overseers” to replace the needed “District Overseers” the size of the district will be lowered from about 13-15 circuits to around 10 per district. This will enable the “District Overseer” to spend more time with the circuits.
• There will be more brothers trained to shoulder the responsibility of oversight when persecution breaks out.
• Instead of having one “Circuit Overseer” assigned to 20 congregations various brothers will be familiar with the needs of different congregations, in order to care for these congregations during the above mentioned difficult times.
• If a select few congregations became isolated for one reason or another, brothers who are already familiar with overseeing the needs of entire congregations would already be available to assist.
• If one “Overseer” was persecuted, arrested, etc. there would already be other qualified brothers to take the lead.
Expansion at Patterson
• Will start some time after upcoming Wallkill project is finished.
• Substantial plans have already been filed with Putnam County and Patterson City to obtain needed permits, and the okay has been given to start the project.
• Several additional office and residence buildings are to be built. The plan is to build as high as the government will allow; likely 5 or 6 floor buildings.
• Plan is to have HIS, Treasurer’s Office, Convention Office, and other smaller departments move there first.
• One new office building will be exclusively used by Governing Body, United States Branch Committee, Service, Publishing (Legal), and Writing Departments.
• Teaching Department will be in new building with Audio Video services with largely expanded studio from what they have right now.Expansion at Wallkill
• Likely will start in 2009.
• After completion plan to have the wood, machine, furniture, etc. shops and electrical, plumbing, and other mechanical training will move to Wallkill.
• Departments that coordinate RBC’s, KH building and other expansion projects will move to Wallkill.
• http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071129/NEWS/711290360Brooklyn News
• Dumbo project in Brooklyn on Jay St has been scrapped.
• Buildings will continue to be sold. Residents will be moved to the larger buildings.
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'BELIEVE IT OR LEAVE IT' - a long time faders dilemma.
by nicolaou ini've noticed a lot of newbies aren't bothering with long fades from the wt.
good for them, perhaps this younger, more savvy generation are more comfortable sticking two fingers up to the organisation and forcing their families to make the uncomfortable decisions about associating with them.. i applaud you, you were happy to believe it or leave it.. me?
i submitted my last field service report more than 11 years ago and have been 'fading' ever since, and i'm sick of it.
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Mickey mouse
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gpolsu MP3 download rather than zip. Move forward to 40 minutes.